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Interview



                                                               us to see the distribution of each of the unaltered substances and
                                                               metabolites. Members of the safety research section in our company
                                                               have also said that they would like to use it to investigate toxicity
                                                               mechanisms. This is because toxicity is sometimes caused by
                                                               unaltered substances, and sometimes by metabolites.










            substance will have risen compared with its state prior to
            administration. If we administer a drug or a compound that is a
            candidate for development, and the endogenous substance is   Furthermore, it may be effective in the evaluation of safety
            reduced, allowing recovery from the disorder, the fluctuation in said   considering the difference between animal species. One example is a
            endogenous substance indicates pathological improvement   case where some data shows a particular toxicity present in rats,
            indirectly. Additionally, if the phenomenon is caused by the   which is caused by a metabolite that is only produced in rats, and
            predicted efficacy mechanism of the development candidate   therefore cannot be created in humans. Not only ARG but also mass
            compound, analyzing the phenomenon demonstrates that the drug   spectrometry offers visual information. If it is possible to demonstrate
            has worked in line with its concept. Furthermore, if comprehensive   that the toxicity is caused not by unaltered substance but rather by
            analysis allows identification of types of endogenous substance, this   metabolites that are specific to rats, we can consider that the toxicity
            means it may in the future allow the discovery of biomarkers that are   may not occur in humans.
            clinically effective. This is an extremely attractive prospect.
                                                               That’s very interesting!
            So you are talking not only about drug discovery that aims for a  As I just said, the great advantage is that it can be used not only for
            cure, but also going a little further to the diagnostic stage. Early  compounds but also for evaluating biomarkers that are active at the
            diagnosis and early cure are obviously important, but it is  same time.
            extremely interesting to hear how you are seeking biomarkers
            useful for determining the effectiveness of prognosis.
                                                               The non-targeting approach? That’s a particular feature of this
                                                               method. How about any disadvantages?
            Comparison with Autoradiography (ARG)              There is no guarantee that all compounds being measured can be
                                                               ionized. That’s the main disadvantage. In contrast to marker analysis,
            What are some of the conventional methods for evaluating
                                                               mass spectrometry can’t detect non-ionized compounds, so it’s not
            tissue distribution?                               possible to use it to evaluate absolutely any and every compound.
            In general, for a single project, a labeled compound is not
            synthesized at the point at which there are still multiple candidate   That’s true. That’s the reason whole-body ARG probably won’t
            compounds. Unlabeled compounds are administered, and organs
                                                               be replaced completely with IMS, isn’t it? How about sensitivity?
            subsequently removed, after which quantitative analysis is performed
            using LCMS on the homogenate of those organs.      This is a very general comment, but MALDI currently compares
                                                               poorly with LCMS and LC-MS/MS.
            And do you use autoradiography (ARG) after that, as part of the
            research process?                                  We are pressing ahead with improvements to sensitivity in
                                                               pretreatment, thanks to Mitsubishi Tanabe Pharma’s cooperation.
            Yes. As the research stage progresses and we narrow down the
            compounds, we use radio-isotope (RI) labeled compounds to evaluate   Yes, and then we need to think about what IMS is targeting, how
            where a compound is distributed within the body after administration,   much we can expect from it, and what it will be used for. If the
            where it builds up, and how long it takes before it is excreted, with   target compound is highly ionized, which allows evaluation of
            the aim of applying for approval as a pharmaceutical product.  effective dosage, then IMS can be used in efficacy mechanism
                                                               analysis. But if it’s not, then looking at efficacy evaluation levels
                                                               might be difficult. When evaluating toxicity mechanisms, however,
            What are the advantages and disadvantages of IMS in
                                                               the dose and distribution quantity of the candidate compounds is
            comparison with ARG?
                                                               sufficient, making their levels detectable. If IMS can be used for that
            The advantages are, firstly and most importantly, that we can   purpose, it will offer attractive evaluation methods.
            perform evaluation at an early stage, prior to having to narrow the
            compounds down to one. The second relates to the greatest attribute   The microscopic level resolution is also part of the comparison
            of the mass spectrometer. With ARG, it is not possible to distinguish
                                                               to ARG, isn’t it?
            between the unaltered substance and metabolite distributions from
            marker tissue distribution information. In particular, when there are   Given the problem of ionization, it is difficult to imagine that IMS
            multiple metabolites present, the distribution and buildup   completely replaces ARG when considering the current quantitative
            information obtained is for a mixture of behaviors, where we don’t   ARG results. The iMScope TRIO performs best when it is used not to
            know the ratio of the metabolites. Using a mass spectrometer allows   evaluate whole-body distribution, but rather when it is focused on a



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